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Restored M4 Sherman by focallength Restored M4 Sherman by focallength
This is a nice example of a late production M4 Sherman tank. It has the newer suspension and wider tracks and the larger 76mm gun with muzzle brake. My significant other's late father was a gunner in a Sherman with the 4th Armored Division in Europe in WW2.
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Ww2fighter Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013
It's a firefly not a Sherman
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focallength Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2013
No, it's a late production Sherman with a 76mm gun with a muzzle brake. My roommate's late father was a gunner in the Sherman and he confirmed this and I also checked my references. The Firefly has a 90mm gun with a longer barrel and a much different turret but they based it on the late production welded hull Sherman.
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914four Featured By Owner May 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Nope, a Firefly is a US made Sherman with a British 17 pounder anti-tank gun, which is 3 inches or just over 76mm. I'm not an expert, and it's hard to tell from this angle, but the Firefly gun is a bit longer and had more of a punch against armour. The gun mantles are similar and this could be either, there was a lot of mix n match going on during production, although all Fireflies had two hatches atop the turret (I can't tell from this angle). Most Fireflies had dazzle camouflage on the end of the barrel to disguise them since they could take out a Tiger or a Panther and the Germans began targeting them more aggressively. Did you notice if it had a rotary engine or a V8? To my knowledge non of the Fireflies got the Ford engines.
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focallength Featured By Owner May 5, 2014
You're right about the Firefly. The barrel was substantially longer and they had an addition on the back of the turret to counterbalance the longer barrel. This is definitely an M4A3E8 with a 76mm with a muzzle brake. So far as I know, the Firefly was exclusive to the British armored forces. They did have a program to put a 90mm on the Sherman in the US, but it was canceled and then revived after the experiences with German armor. The introduction of the Pershing negated the need to add the 90mm to the Sherman.
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914four Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well there was the M36 tank hunter which was a 90mm on a Sherman chassis, and they produced around 1800 of those if I recall correctly. The main reason I doubted this is an A3E8 is because there is no bellows visible on the gun mantle, as there is on the image in David Porter's Essential Vehicle Identification Guide; a quick search of Wikipedia shows a picture of an M4A3E8 at the Patton Museum of Cavalry and Armor, Fort Knox, Kentucky, and it has the same mantle as this image, which leads me to believe that the bellows may have been removed on both, or there may have been two variants of the M4A3E8. 
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focallength Featured By Owner May 6, 2014
Not all of them had the bellows and it may have not been put on this example. There was only one factory variant of the M4A3E8, but there may have been plenty of field modifications. The bellows may have been removed in the field to ease maintenance and the fact that the canvas tended to rot in wet weather. The M36 was a tank destroyer, as they called them back then, but didn't have the heavier armor of the Sherman. The M36 was designed for "shoot and scoot" tactics. I've seen a lot of photos of the Sherman M4A3E8 without the bellows, which leads me to believe that the crews removed them in the field.
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914four Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That would make sense. As to the M36, in your original comment you'd said something about a Sherman with a 90, a description which the M36 sort of fits. :-)
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focallength Featured By Owner May 6, 2014
What happened was there was a program started to upgun the Sherman early on but it was cancelled and then restarted after the invasion. It was strictly a test program. The M36 used the Sherman chassis, along with more than a few other adaptations, but was not a tank per se, rather a tank destroyer, which was designed to move in, destroy some tanks and then get out, since they didn't have the heavier armor plating. They were a stopgap measure until a tank that could go up against the Panthers was introduced, which was the Pershing, which was introduced late in the war but was very effective against the German armor.
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jcapricorn Featured By Owner May 31, 2012
It what events this taken? Is it in anniversary of World War II?
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focallength Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012
It was taken at the Mid-Atlantic Air Museum's World War 2 Weekend in 2000. It's an annual event. The museum is located at the regional airport in Reading, Pennsylvania.
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jcapricorn Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012
Wow, that's cool !!
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focallength Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012
The next one starts today and goes until Sunday.
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jcapricorn Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012
Ok, because this June 6 is the anniversary of D-Day.
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focallength Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012
I know. My late uncle was in the invasion.
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jcapricorn Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2012
Alright.
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focallength Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2012
:-)
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hound93 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2009
Was this down Reading? I haven't seen a Sherman down there the last few years.
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focallength Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2009
Yeah. It was at the WW 2 weekend they have there.
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hound93 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2009
Oh I know, I go down every year. I just couldn't find a Sherman. Plenty of German units however.
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focallength Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2009
I haven't been there in a long time. This Sherman was parked at the entrance. One of these days. I'd go but every time it comes around, it's always so goddamned hot that weekend and I don't get along with hot weather very well.
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hound93 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2009
Yeah, i buy things and have to carry them around... haha, can't wait to end up re-enacting.
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focallength Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2009
Good for you. Have fun.
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ClassifiedRestricted Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2009
This is one of my favorite tanks.
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focallength Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2009
My significant other's late father was a gunner in the Sherman in the 4th Armored Division during WW 2.
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emelld1324 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2008
still, it was way better against the japaness tanks
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focallength Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2008
True, but the 76mm gun did help.
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emelld1324 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2008
yup
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focallength Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2008
My significant other's late father was gunner in a Sherman in the 4th Armored Division during WW 2.
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emelld1324 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2008
Cool! in which campaign was he involved?
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focallength Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2008
Across Europe as part of Patton's 3rd Army. He was in from the breakout in Normandy all the way through to the end, including the relief of Bastogne.
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emelld1324 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2008
Cool!
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focallength Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2008
He had some interesting stories.
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MaxDeathKnighT Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2008
Damn it...i was born in the wrong country and 80 years late... xD
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focallength Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2008
The Sherman had its flaws. The early ones tended to catch fire rather easily until they changed the ammo storage system. It also was undergunned compared to the German Panthers and Tigers. It was comparable to the Pkfw IV. The 76mm gun helped but it still had trouble with the German tanks.
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ToiletScrubber Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2007
Great picture! I love this tank. Wow, you know someone from the 4th AD, that's so awesome! I read the book "He Rode Up Front for Patton" by Albin Irzyk and "Patton's Vanguard" by Don Fox. John S Wood was a fantastic general and the soldiers under him performed brilliantly in combat.
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focallength Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2007
My significant other's late father was in the 4th AD. I have both of those books. Her father's tank commander, Lt. Bashum is mentioned in the Irzyk book a couple of times. Once when he tells about the tanks crossing a damaged bridge and the first one (Bashum's) getting across safely and then the bridge collapsing under the next tank. He also mentions about Lt. Bashum being wounded and evacuated to a hospital. Karen's mom has the Division history that was published just after the war and given to every member of the 4th AD. It's pretty cool and has period photos and a (for the time) pretty complete history of the division's actions during the war.
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